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Yes, I saw it. And
later repented for not sticking with my gut feeling.
In the week prior, I had just begun reading some "unpopular"
studies
on the topic.
(Thanks to Michael Bunker's
Lazarus Unbound for starting me.) Only after I saw
it did I find a really good article on the above forum that drilled
home the point for
me however, as a very likely very unpopular link on
the
practical NT application of the 2nd Commandment, and how it applies to
this film:
The Passion & The 2nd Commandment
http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID23682|CHID125043|CIID1716514,00.html
There's also a bit more abrasive (begins with anti-Catholic arguments), but very
eye-opening
point-by-point article which discusses the harm of the "additions to
Word of
God" the movie makes, and the explicit Mirian theology of the
film, called
The Animated Crucifix
http://www.letgodbetrue.com/TodaysWorld/passion.htm
(Update: The
Christ in this film is the Christ of Gnosticism, not the Christ of
Christianity (unless you count apostate Christianity!) See
http://www.watch.pair.com/passion.html for a discussion of the
occult symbolism, Gnostic doctrines, etc used in "The Passion," which
mainly only Druids, Satanists and occultists would catch.
Update 2: Order "The
Poison in the Passion" by Terry Watkins, for a 64 page booklet
detailing the false doctrines in this film, or read it free at
http://www.av1611.org/Passion/passion.html
I also included
the message below when I e-mailed the first two links above:
Hi Guy!
Just read "The 2nd Commandment and 'The Passion of the Christ'" from
your
links page. Excellent article. Thanks for posting it!
(Like your new pic! btw.)
Hi Lori,
Glad you liked that. The nagging feeling I had all week before going
was how everyone
was saying that it was "the greatest evangelism tool of all time..."
and
that the church (as a whole, not just mine) was convinced they should
use it to
invite unbelievers to. Which had me thinking, "as if deep-down we
believe that
the Bible and the preaching of the cross are somehow insufficient
tools for evangelism?"
Which lead to "oh but it's based on the Bible, and merely helps people
to see
and understand what Christ went through " which makes me think, "as if
we believe the Holy Spirit to be an insufficient helper to revealing
the Christ
of scripture?"
This movie will "win converts" based only on emotion and
intellectualism,
as they're "sold" on the story, but is worthless for bringing people
to
an encounter with the real Christ, whom only the Holy Spirit can
reveal, via the
preaching of the Word itself, and through our lives as people
encounter Jesus living
through us. Nothing else is really Jesus Christ. Any movie will only
win a person's
devotion to a mere man-made less-than-Christ image. The sad part is
that they will
be led to think that is enough. (cf Romans 1:21-25)
Yes, it can be argued that it might get some people to asking more
questions or
"seeking" but as the first article (and Romans 3) points out, "there is none that seeks
after God, no not one" so I find even this a vain argument. I think
the MAIN
reason the church is so excited by it, is because finally something
has come along
that makes US look good, as if we're actually NOT stupid for believing
in all the
other "images," bad movies and low-budget artwork, plays and
productions
people associate with Christianity. This movie finally makes
Christianity look respectable,
and takes away the necessary stigma of us being perceived as fools
for Christ.
As always, just my thoughts there. The articles linked above are very
good theological
pieces, which I think interested parties need to seriously consider
before continuing
down this path. As for me, I threw out my Bradford Exchange plate of
Jesus, and
all other images of Him from postcards, booksleeves, etc I could find.
Too late
for me to not see the movie, but at least I'm acting on what I've
since learned.
And I won't be buying the DVD...
I later replied, in further response to Lori...
What I did find personally
disgusting was the "falling off a bridge" and
falling 5 times on the way to the crucifixion. These were inventions
in addition
to the gospels, and I couldn't help but wonder what kind of devil
would actually
find it necessary to ADD to the sufferings of Christ? Anal
compulsive that I am,
I counted the number of lashes he received in the film also, and it
way exceeded
40, which I thought was heretical at first, but had to look that up. I
don't think
the Bible specifies the number of lashes given by the Romans, but
rather Paul received
the Jews customary 40-1 (5 times). But this misnomer on my part is
what tipped me
off to the others - once I realized they were actually "over-doing"
the
suffering, those that followed were all the more pronounced.
See also
"Do We Have Artistic License?" A list of errors and "add-ons" in The
Passion
This movie does NOT
accurately portray what Christ went through, but rather glories in
crucifying him "all over again, putting him to an open shame" (Hebrews
6:6) - and even MORE SO than the true crucifixion. Putting
the 2nd Commandment
aside (if such were even permissible), these errors and add-ons have
convinced me that this movie presents another Christ
(Galatians
1:6-10), NOT the Jesus Christ of Scripture, not the Jesus
Christ whom the Holy Spirit reveals, and not the Jesus Christ who
saves.
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-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: The Passion & The 2nd Commandment
Guy,
I scanned this article and while I appreciate the
brother's heart, I have to disagree with his argument...
Hi -----
Sorry I missed you in Nashville!
In scanning certain articles I was not convinced at first either. I
only sent the
ones that I think worth reading every word of, however, but I realize
most people,
like I first did, will only scan unless really led to study this issue out in Berean fashion.
Quite simply, I had to force myself to open my heart and be receptive
to correction
from God's word, if such was indeed needed. I'm now thankful that I
did so.
The first is a more generic "what's wrong with
A
movie" but the 2nd is
specific to "what's wrong with THIS movie," and it made me sick to
realize
all the details that this movie imparts that are both blasphemous and
heretical.
A Christian like you or I would miss many of the Mary-worshipping
hints dropped,
but the movie follows strict Catholic false teachings point-by-point.
I hope you'll
take time to examine it (The Animated Crucifix) as well.
But the very points you made have been made (pro and con) for weeks
now on certain forums, and by different people. Gleaning from what I
remember from surfing, below are
specific answers to the points you raised.
Questions: if Jesus had walked the earth during
"modern" times, would it have been a "sin" for
someone to take his picture with a camera or to watch
him on TV?
In His sovereignty, God came forth when such was
not available, just to prevent
the religious idolatry these images would lead to later.
Would God not have been in violation of His
own 2nd commandment by giving Jesus a physical form
that man could see & worship?
See below, but God can do whatever He wants, and we
are not to say to the potter,
"what are you doing?" God commanded a snake to be made for people to
look
to for healing, once, but later had it destroyed precisely because it
had become
an idol. I believe God has license to do specific acts as He pleases
however.
(His appearances - burning bush, theophanies, Incarnation, Damascus
Road, etc
- are limited to His sovereign timing, and we are not invited to mimic
them. Anything
that we can produce is less than God anyway, and not an accurate
representation.)
In fact, now WE are the "visual representation" of Christ on Earth.
Outside of the Word,
the fruit of the Holy Spirit is how God has chosen to reveal Jesus
Christ to others -
no props required or allowed. Either people will see Jesus Christ
living through us,
or they will not see Him at all.
Did God not create man
with the desire to be creative in the arts, because
the arts were intended to give glory to God? And now
the greatest story ever told is off limits to anything
but printed words?
It has been this way among Protestant churches
since before our technological era.
The Westminster Confession of Faith (quoted in the first article) made
a big deal
out of specifying that images of God and Jesus could not be used for
worship or
teaching, precisely because of the 2nd Commandment, and this in
an era when many
people could not read! God has indeed sovereignly decreed that
printed, spoken,
and "rhema" words are his means of communicating His nature and truth,
as both articles point out. I personally disagree; I think movies
would be a great
way to impart the gospel, but rather than profess myself to be wiser
than God, I've
decided to humbly submit to what His word plainly teaches. Honestly, I
"didn't
quite get it" before seeing the movie and frankly, didn't want to,
because
like most I wanted to see it and decided in my heart I would not be
persuaded otherwise.
I thank God that He has not left me in a state of ignoring his word
for what my
own heart and imagination devise however.
More specific to your points however (from another link):
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/melgibson-thepassionofthechrist/conversation-w-RC.html
FIRST, YOU ASK WHY, “IF ALL IMAGES ARE BAD,” DID GOD COMMAND
THAT CARVINGS OF THE CHERUBIM BE MADE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT TABERNACLE
AND TEMPLE?
The answer is that all images are not bad. The
second commandment in Exodus 20 does
not forbid all images; it forbids all images OF GOD and images that
are worshipped
as God. Here is the exact wording:
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of any thing
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is
in the water
under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve
them: for I
the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the
fathers upon the
children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"
(Exodus 20:4-5).
The cherubim were angels and not God and the Israelites did not
worship them. It
is not wrong to make images and pictures of things as long as they are
not intended
to depict God or to be worshipped. Since Jesus Christ is God, it is
therefore forbidden
to make any depictions of Him. That much is plain from God's own
commandment,
and who are we to try to change God's Word?
...
One writer put it this way: "God's Word doesn't give us these warnings
[about
making graven images] in order to deprive us of visual gratification.
After all,
He filled His creation with glorious flowers, magnificent multicolored
birds, vibrant,
luminous fish and countless other delights to our eyes. But, like the
forbidden
fruit in the garden ... one kind of image would be out of bounds: any
image that
depicted God Himself or any of the world's false "gods" ("Mel Gibson's
"Passion,"
Crossroad, February 2004).
and
FIFTH, YOU SAID, "JESUS AND THE APOSTLES EVANGELIZED PEOPLE BY MEETING
UP WITH
THEIR CULTURE, NOT ABANDONING IT. ... IN THE SAME WAY, MAKING MOVIES
IS TAKING A
HUGE CULTURAL VENUE AND USING IT AS A MEANS TO SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS."
"The answer is that that while the Apostles did try to preach in such a
way that
people could understand the Gospel and while they were "made all
things to all
men" that they "might by all means save some" (1 Cor. 9:22), they DID
NOT
DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE CONTRARY TO THE BIBLE. In both their message
and their
method they were restricted by the God's commandments and principles
in the New
Testament Scriptures.
For example, the people of the great city of Athens in Paul's day were
image-oriented;
they had images to every conceivable god. But when Paul preached to
them, he did
not make an image of Jesus on the cross and use that so that he could
conform the
message to their culture. He simply preached God's Word and boldly
demanded that
they repent of their sin and idolatry (Acts 17).
In this conversation so far we have seen repeatedly that the chief
difference between
the Roman Catholic way of thinking and the Biblical way of thinking is
that the
Roman Catholic believes that we have liberty to go beyond the Bible,
to add Catholic
tradition and papal proclamations and instruction from saints and
mystics. The Bible
way of thinking is that we do not have such liberty, that we are bound
strictly
by the Scriptures in all matters. The Bible is the SOLE authority for
faith and
practice. This is the heart of the debate pertaining to Mel Gibson's
movie."
NOTE: I've only included
Rev. Cloud's points 1 and 5 here ; for more Q&A along this line, please see
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/melgibson-thepassionofthechrist/conversation-w-RC.html
I see now that his is not a legalistic over-reaction to the 2nd
Commandment,
but rather a humble submission to what God has said.
I saw the movie and I agree with the other 99.99% of
the Body of Christ today - this is an awesome movie
that glorifies Jesus and God is using this movie to
bring many unsaved into the Kingdom and it is piercing
the hearts of us who's love has grown cold. It is
driving people back into the Bible to read the story
of Jesus for themselves and it is making the entire
world face the truth of who Jesus was & what He did -
that's why they hate this movie with a "passion."
Well, that my 2 cents worth.
Sorry, my money's on this movie depicting a false
Christ (and therefore false love
and convictions which are a natural reaction to an emotional movie -
heck I cried
when Ol' Yeller died), and a powerful Mary whom even Peter called
Mother and confessed
his sin to (of denying Christ 3 times). Also, the problem is that the
movie's plot
is not biblical in it's source material (partly so), but rather the
action strictly
follows the "stations of the cross" as received in a vision by two
nuns. (By the way - ask Noah what happened to the
99.99% ; wide
is the road, few will enter, etc.) This movie is, in my opinion, a man-pleaser,
not a God-pleaser.
Most issues like this people would just "agree to disagree on" I
realize.
Glad you took the time to at least scan and reply, and can only hope
others do so
as well, in an even more Berean fashion. Again, my initial issue
was why does the
modern church even need or want to use a movie to evangelize with?
Do we honestly
believe the Word of God to be insufficient for such purposes, or the
Holy Spirit unable
to sufficiently reveal what a person needs to know about Christ to
bring about conversion?
Hope you are doing well. I saw you in church last time
you were there but I think you left early and I didn't
get to speak to you.
G_d bless!
-----(Name withheld)
More from -----
I had missed the 2nd link - you're right it is very
anti-Catholic. While I agree with a lot of his points, I found his
harsh spirit very unpleasant - I use to be a lot like that. But, I
must admit that I totally missed the Catholic doctrines he points out
that were in the movie. Don't know yet if that changes how I feel
about the movie and so far I'm totally unconvinced about the 2nd
Commandment part.
To be honest, I'm still a bit shaky on the 4th
one myself, but dependant upon God's grace to bring me into greater
conformity with His word and His will... and I have yet a long way to
go!!
But, before I say anything else about this I'm going to study it
& pray about it. This is very interesting.
Thanks for mental & spiritual stimulation.
-------]
Before someone says it... "YES, I realize I have an image at the top of
this page."
As the article above states, the
issue at hand is images of God however. While the movie sins in giving
us this actor AS an image of God, I post it here NOT as an image of
God; in this context it's an image merely of a sinful human being continuing
in folly. I might take it down, but the headline "What's wrong with
this picture?" (ie, motion picture) was at minimum clever, and useful
for instruction, and is not portrayed here as an object of worship.
It is
also worth noting that the Bible says
Jesus Christ IS "the image of the invisible God"
(Colossians
1:13) If God personally reveals Himself to you, then worship
is the appropriate response!
However, many people
(including Billy Graham), have pointed out that the images from this
movie are now "burned into their mind." The problem is that now people
are envisioning Jim Caviezel when they read the Bible or pray. (And
I've heard from more than one woman that they now struggle with lust
when thinking of Jesus, thanks to the closing scene - hey, any wonder
he was
hit by lightning during filming?) Point being, the images which
art and movies give us are not the true Jesus; our mental images are
"false gods," one point of the 2nd Commandment. Personally, I have
asked God to cleanse my mind from all such society-induced images, and
to give me a Word and Spirit-inspired image of Jesus, if any is even
necessary. "Blessed are they who have not seen, and yet have
believed." John 20:29
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: The Passion & The 2nd Commandment
You are over reacting. It
is a vehicle that is bringing people into churches.
Even if one soul is saved, it is worth it. You didn't understand
everything about
Jesus when you were first saved, and I daresay you still don't.
Pray for understanding
for those that are touched, and don't try to destroy the vehicle!
RE:
You are over reacting.
-Hi Tim,
If decrying a false Christ and a false gospel is over-reacting, then Luther over-reacted. Count me
in.
It is a vehicle that is bringing people into churches.
-Given the number of churches you've left over bad doctrine, unSpirit-like
conduct or money-grubbing, I just can't see how YOU of all people
would think "bringing people into churches" is doing anyone a favor!
-The issue is, "can it bring people to a knowledge of the real Jesus
Christ?"
and I say that this false Christ movie cannot. Now "of
course" God can use this movie... He probably used The Last Temptation
of Christ and Jesus Christ Superstar in ways, sovereign deity that He
is. I saw them both before I was saved and thought they were cool.
They may even have brought me to a place of learning more about Jesus
(but that's a human wisdom argument, not what the Bible teaches about
Jesus drawing by His Spirit, or being revealed by the seed of the Word
of God. Such movies could also be argued to be "spiritual placebos.").
-The problem is that this movie (Passion) is as unscriptural in it's
way as those were, and should no more be endorsed by the church or
thought of "as an evangelism tool" than these movies were. They were
movies about "another Christ" and so is this one. Let pagans make
pagan movies about false Christs all they want, and let God be God and
use them however he pleases (Romans 8:28). The problem is that this
movie has the endorsement of undiscerning Christian leaders everywhere,
who are supposed to be teaching God's commandments and warning people
to not follow after the MANY false Christs who WILL appear at
the end of the age.
-Heck, when I was lost I had to walk past a picket line of Christians
to see Last Temptation of Christ. This time unbelievers can't even get
in because undiscerning churches have bought up all the tickets!
Even if one soul is saved, it is worth it.
-Agreed, if seen from God's sovereign perspective
expressed above. The church however, should not promote it as truthful
or valuable however, but should at minimum tell their people - and the
lost - it is unscriptural.
You didn't understand everything about Jesus when you
were first saved, and I daresay you still don't.
-Again, agreed. "All I ever need to know about
Jesus I learned from the Bible" and what He reveals as we walk
together. But I learned nothing about Jesus from The Passion, and what
other lost (and saved) will learn about Jesus from the Passion is
mostly heretical. They will learn of another Christ whom I do not
know.
Pray for understanding for those that are touched, and
don't try to destroy the vehicle!
(Amen to the first! They'll need the same type of
prayer a Mormon might, other Christ that they've been touched by!)
As far as over-reacting... going and setting up a whole webpage about
this, now that would be over-reacting... Oh yeh, did I say "Count me
in" earlier? Smile bud, you're on
http://www.AnotherChrist.com
-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: The Passion & The 2nd Commandment
... As to the suffering of Jesus, you honestly think it can be
overemphasized?
Knowing the weight of carrying your own sin, do you not think the sins
of
humanity would be almost unbearable, physically as well as every other
way?
-overemphasized, no, but I'm not saying it
is overemphasized. The problem I see with the content of the movie is
that the suffering of Jesus is added to - things that scripture does
not record are made up and added to His suffering. Aside from
heretical, it's devilish and just plain sick, and it helps make the
case that this movie is not about the Christ of scripture. It's
another Christ, which Paul and Jesus both warned to be wary of.
When it comes down to it, humans are storytellers and in this age the
stories
are told visually as well as orally.
-just from the page I already have
up, see the part under
FIFTH, YOU SAID, "JESUS AND THE APOSTLES EVANGELIZED PEOPLE BY MEETING
UP WITH THEIR CULTURE, NOT ABANDONING IT. ... IN THE SAME WAY, MAKING
MOVIES IS TAKING A HUGE CULTURAL VENUE AND USING IT AS A MEANS TO
SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS."
if you like. I'd
add that humans are sinners and liars when it comes down to it as
well, and the stories we tell are lies, no matter how we tell them -
visually or orally. God has therefore wisely restricted the stories
about His person to the written/spoken/rhema word of the Bible. If
this movie stuck to the Bible it would be *less* of an issue, but it
simply doesn't. This human movie is packed with human lies, which both
the lost and saved who see it are going to believe are truths, just
because of the parts that are true. That Genesis 3 tactic just never gets
old.
Now, I can throw around Greek and Hebrew with the best of them
(just a bit slower) and "hermeneutics" is a word I can actually use in
a
sentence correctly. However, I hardly think it serves any
greater purpose
to spend my time and energies defending or condemning this movie.
-really, we can agree to disagree and I
still love you and feel secure in the v/v! I enjoy the iron sharpens
iron dialogue with someone with a brain anyway. I do see a point, so
I'm willing to go with it is all. Paul saw the point in condemning
false gospels and leaders; Luther saw the point in opposing another
group who were presenting an unbiblical view of Jesus and
salvation. I don't count myself as their peers or contemporaries of
course, but I see the point as well.
As always, it comes down to obedience and fruit. See it or
don't see it
based on what the Lord says, not a critic, friend, pastor, or
celebrity.
Then check the fruit.
-agreed. I only wish I'd studied out the 2nd
Commandment or been taught it really well by pastors and teachers
BEFORE I saw the movie, JUST SO THAT I could have known what the Lord says
about it! (Yeh, I know you mean in a "led by the Spirit"
kind of way, but you get the point. And so do I.)
-In fact, I wish others thought as you do, because
most Christians who won't even see movies, or at least R ones, are
seeing this only because every pastor/celebrity from Billy
Graham to Billy Bob IS telling them to see it.
The problem is that this movie has the
wide-scale endorsement of undiscerning Christian leaders everywhere,
who are supposed to be teaching God's commandments and warning people
to not follow after the MANY false Christs who WILL appear at
the end of the age.
We can exchange ideas on the subject for months and I doubt either of
us will
change our view, and that is just fine and dandy. We're always crazy
about you!
-amen - fine and dandy!
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-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: The Passion & The 2nd Commandment
Whew!
Thank you for being bold and blunt. I'm glad you said what you
did. I thought I was the only one with a sinking feeling about all
this.
There is also a thought
provoking analysis of this film by David Bay and staff on Cutting
Edge website
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/newsupdatemain.html which
points out the more blatant occultic and illuminist symbolisms.
The presentation really does answer the odd bits in the film that
would (should?) have any believer asking themself, 'what on earth
is THAT doing in this story?"
It is truly a marvel
that so many respected ministers have endorsed this film!
best wishes,
Carol
Thanks Carol -
"And no marvel; for
Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." 2 Cor 11:14
There is a link which
op-eds the views expressed by "sites like this one" which a colleague
sent me.
http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID23682|CHID125043|CIID1712182,00.html
It makes interesting arguments (mostly human reasoning though) but
even it plainly says
[NOTE: Having said all this, any reader who has
biblical scruples against viewing representational art involving the
Lord Jesus should not take this review as an encouragement to go
against his conscience. "Each one should be fully convinced in his own
mind" (Rom. 14:5).]
Well I'm fully convinced!
My above friend, who disapproves of my
stance here, also said he is "shocked at my lack of grace," to which I
replied
"You're
exhibiting a lack of grace by telling me (and anybody who reads
your site's commentary on me) that "being fully convinced" on an
issue is cultish legalism... Abstinence from alcohol (which he
practices) is MUCH more akin to cultish legalism than obedience to a
Commandment. How can I say that? Obedience is
better than sacrifice."
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I'm pleased to report that there
actually is a mainstream pastor who wrote a more "middle of the road" article of "caution" before the movie came out
http://www.gcchurch.net/articles/The_Passion_of_the_Christ.htm
at least asking his people to consider the dangers that images and
movies can have upon theology, before even deciding to go see it or
not. This is important reading
as well as
This excellent article
http://www.aomin.org/BressonPassion.html dealing with the
potential use of this film's wake. This article properly discerns
the theological train-wreck of the film, and is great for those who
are at this point more interested in the very practical question of
"What Now?"
"But
it would be disappointing if those who believe such a presentation is
a 2nd commandment violation, while not viewing the movie per their
conscience, also fail to use the movie to speak to the postmodern
culture that is the circumstantial context for the release of the
movie. One need not condone the making, showing, or viewing of the
movie in order to use it as a tool for Christ’s sake."
(Thanks Boyd, for both of these, and for so much more!)
In closing (for now), in
response to friend and scholar Niki B:
It was only 2
years, but my first two years as a Christian were in a very legalistic
"Bibliodalatry" type of church as well, which not only had no sense of
the Spirit's move, and no sense of grace, but no sense of humor
either!
I kind of found it hard to believe that this movie could trip my
trigger so readily
and send me in that very direction, yet I'm not remorseful or having
second thoughts.
It really does have some serious offenses, and I'm especially targeted
on the fact
the current church leadership across America, who are supposed to be
guarding the
flocks, were not more outspoken about simple things like the 2nd
Commandment issue.
To the best of my knowledge, this topic has not been addresses in
society since "the movie age."
There should have been more voices telling people there really is
another MAJOR
point to at least consider here before one would even choose to see
it. If a person
came down on the "it's alright to see a Jesus movie" side after
wrestling
that out and then chosen to see it, then at least the pastors, etc
would have done
the more unpopular part of their job.
The issues of
inventing tortures and adding
to what Christ went though in this movie are, to me, repulsive and the
most inexcusable.
I'm not offended because the movie doesn't follow every jot and tittle
of the Bible -
I'm offended because that's MY JESUS they're doing that to (the extra
stuff I mean, not the crucifixion.
Praise God for the crucifixion!) Then
(not as avoidance
or denial) I realize, no it's not,
it's another Christ they're doing
that to, because the events
depicted in this film did not truly happen to the real, historical,
Jesus Christ.
This story is not
the gospel, it's a fable invented by man, complete with a few
doctrines
of devils thrown in, and many are departing the true faith to say that
it's a wonderful,
historically accurate presentation of the real Christ's sufferings. The wholesale
endorsement of
something so blatantly unBiblical by church leadership, is the other
issue.
2nd Commandment and Mary-worship aside, these are the issues I'm
standing on and not
soon letting go of - the failure of church leadership to be more
discerning and
properly instruct the flocks, and the sickening additions to Christ's
suffering
this movie somehow revels in.
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Note that I am
"freezing" this page, as I feel the relevant points have already been
made by the brilliant people on
my mailing list, or on the articles linked. Please study them.
I've also begun an
essay (opposed to e-mail replies) on the
2nd Commandment, Romans 14, and a "call for repentance" to pastors who
unknowingly endorsed this film, but are now having second thoughts.
You may still E-Mail Me* if
you like, but I probably will not add your comments here,
and possibly will not have time to reply. This discussion however, is
still going on, on the
Lazarus Unbound Discussion Board
where I first learned there even was a controversy.
*Note that anything sent
to this e-mail address becomes my property and may be republished or
redistributed without further notification
Again, the 2 articles
which I originally sent out are:
The Passion & The 2nd
Commandment
http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID23682|CHID125043|CIID1716514,00.html
& The Animated Crucifix
http://www.letgodbetrue.com/TodaysWorld/passion.htm
The one that lists the errors of
the film is
"Do We Have Artistic License?" A list of errors and "add-ons" in The
Passion
and of course the truly
practical article, which I'll call
"What Now?
Cleaning up the train wreck and using the wake of this film to glorify
the real Jesus."
http://www.aomin.org/BressonPassion.html
In keeping with
the above link,
I of course realize that God can certainly use this film.
"All things work together
for the good of those that love the Lord,
and are the called according to His purposes" Romans 8:28
If the film or the controversy has created spiritual questions
for you, visit
www.hispassionforyou.com
to learn more of Jesus, and why the cross was necessary.
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